Agenda item

Question Time.

Minutes:

Dr. Martin Vaughan, a resident in Measham, asked the Chairman the following questions under Standing Order 35:-

 

“1.        How did Leicestershire County Council arrive at its current valuation for Measham Youth Club’s current land and building?

2.         Does the County Council consider this valuation to be incredibly mean considering that the lack of finance available to the Club will inhibit its ability to provide a replacement facility?

 

3.         The current site of the Youth Club is being bought as part of the Ashby Canal Project. What is the anticipated increase in land value the Council expects when it sells the land on to a developer?  Is this part of the motivating factors for the current valuation?

 

4.         How much profit does the Council expect itself or developers to achieve from the sale of the site?

 

5.         Has any analysis been undertaken to assess the long term impact on the local community from the loss of this Youth Club?

 

6.         Is the County Council going to stand idly by whilst an important community facility like Measham Youth Club is destroyed, potentially exacerbating local anti-social behaviour issues, as well as damaging future community cohesion?”

 

The Chairman replied as follows:-

 

“1.        The County Council is restricted by statute as to how it assesses compensation .There is a set of rules laid down in Section 5 of the Land Compensation Act 1961 which govern the basis of compensation. The current valuation of the site has been based on what is considered to be the market value of the site in accordance with Rule 2 of these Rules and reflects what is felt to be the value for the site assuming potential for its development for residential purposes.  In addition, the County Council will pay any eligible Disturbance and other statutory payments due to the Youth Club. The site extends to approximately 1 acre and whilst a residential development value has been applied, the valuation assumes a deduction to allow for the need to negotiate access to the site over other land. The Youth Club have appointed Surveyors to act on their behalf (and whose fees will be met by the County Council) and officers remain in discussion with them over whether this or an alternative valuation is appropriate in this case.

 

2.         The valuation reflects the fact that the County Council is governed by a statutory scheme in assessing compensation which precludes the consideration of factors such as the financial status of the owner.

 

3.         It is expected that any land which is surplus to the requirements of the Canal scheme, will be disposed of under the terms of the Joint Venture Agreement between the County Council and Ideal Country Homes (Measham) Ltd. Any income arising from an increase in the value of the land on disposal will arise solely from the reinstatement of the Canal and subject to Cabinet approval would simply be set against the cost of construction (which is estimated to be in the region of £13 million). There is therefore no profit to the County Council from the overall scheme.

 

4.         The answer to question 3 above sets out the basis on which the County Council is proposing to enter into the process of disposing of surplus land, including the Measham Youth Club. It is not possible at the present time to predict entirely accurately the proceeds of sale and to do so in a public forum would not be in accordance with the County Council’s usual practice, as this information is commercially sensitive pending conclusion of regulations and conveyencing procedures.

 

5.         The County Council’s Youth Service is aware of the situation regarding the Ashby Canal Project and will continue to work with the local Youth Club Management Committee to ensure the securing of provision in the area.


The Youth Service has developed previous strategies to remain in contact with young people in communities where there are limited sites to work out from via the use of mobile youth facilities. This would be viewed as a short term measure in the example of the Measham transition to new premises.

 

6.         The County Council has been attempting to resolve the purchase of this site in order to remove the uncertainty for the Club and we are happy to offer advice and support to the Club when it has decided how it wishes to establish its operations elsewhere. The decision as to how the compensation monies are spent rests with the Trustees of the Youth Club.

 

In addition, whilst the County Council will continue to look to acquire the site, it does not need to occupy the property just yet and therefore an offer has been made for the Club to remain in occupation for a period after completion of the purchase to assist in ensuring a smooth transition from the current site to any new one. A proposed new site has been identified and is being considered. It is therefore inappropriate to describe the facility as being “destroyed”. If the Youth Club Management Committee chooses to take the option of advice and support from the County Council, issues such as those raised in the question of improving community cohesion and tackling anti-social behaviour can be discussed.

 

As one of the 19 priority neighbourhoods, Measham will figure significantly in the future plans of Departments, especially those Services that are charged with securing positive activities and addressing anti social behaviour. Youth work staff are already involved in enabling young people to have a say in the future of provision in the area and during a visit to the proposed relocation site young people and workers both felt the new venue had much to offer both in terms of the current quality of accommodation and the location of facilities. The team of part-time staff and the Locality Youth Development workers are in regular contact with the Youth Club Management Committee members. Measham is expected to benefit from other investment in young people’s provision in the area with initiatives such as the ‘YTalk’ social networking sites project, which has received funding from the ‘Connecting Communities’ grant.”

 

Dr. Vaughan asked the following supplementary question on the reply to question 1:

 

“The Youth Club land has been valued by the County Council at approximately £150,000. The other side of the road from the Youth Club land there are two plots of land totaling 0.2 acres being offered for sale at £250,000. How can the County Council justify an offer of £150,000 for approximately one acre of land when a highways officer has declared that access to the youth Club land is not a problem and would not need negotiation with a third party?”

 

Response:

 

At the request of the Chairman, the Director of Corporate Resources responded to the supplementary question put forward and confirmed that the access to the Youth Club’s current premises was not owned by the Youth Club and this had therefore affected the valuation. There was no guarantee that Highways approval would be given to moving the access, onto Youth Club owned land, without going through a formal planning process. There were several other similar sized sites in Measham that had struggled in the current market and it was felt that the valuation was fair.

 

Dr. Vaughan asked the following supplementary question on the reply to question 2:

 

“Does the County Council accept that with an offer of £150,000 for the Youth Club land, there is no possibility of the existing facility being replaced?”

The Chairman replied that he would ensure Dr. Vaughan was provided with a written response to his supplementary question.

 

Dr. Vaughan asked the following supplementary question on the reply to question 3:

 

“At what price is the County Council going to sell the surplus Youth Club land to Ideal Country Homes?”

The Chairman replied that he would ensure Dr. Vaughan was provided with a written response to his supplementary question.

 

Dr. Vaughan asked the following supplementary question on the reply to question 5:

 

“The County Council states that mobile facilities could be used in the transition to new premises. With £150,000 no new premises are feasible. Does the County Council accept this fact?”

The Chairman replied that he would ensure Dr. Vaughan was provided with a written response to his supplementary question.

 

Dr. Vaughan asked the following supplementary question on the reply to question 6:

 

“Does the County Council not accept that without new premises to replace those lost by compulsory purchase - due to the £150,000 being insufficient to purchase new premises – the Youth Club will eventually cease to exist?”

The Chairman replied that he would ensure Dr. Vaughan was provided with a written response to his supplementary question.

 

It was felt by members that it was difficult to form on a view on matters such as these without being made aware of all the relevant facts. Accordingly, it was proposed by Mr. Bailey, seconded by Mr. Hunt and carried:

 

“That the Scrutiny Commissioners discuss this case with a view to requesting that a detailed report on this matter be brought to a future meeting of the Commission on how the Youth Club can be assisted in re-establishing itself at alternative premises.”