Agenda item

Maintained School Deficits and Academy Conversion

Minutes:

Liam Powell explained that he had been approached by a Multi Academy Trust in the north-west of the county who wish to welcome in a school from the north of the county.  Liam said that the MAT board wished to proceed but the school would introduce a deficit to the Trust.  Liam added that the ESFA need to be satisfied that the Trust was not exposing itself to financial risk and the school could manage its budget.

 

Liam said that the Trust was prepared to ask the local authority to support financially, and it was important to demonstrate to the ESFA that all options had been explored by the MAT regardless of the answer.  Liam said that the historic deficit was not helped by age range change for the school that wants to join the Trust and this was being managed and the issue of the two buildings involved on the campus which had now been sorted.  Liam said that the school had presented different models for progressing this finance and if the lump sum for both schools separately before they joined could have been continued then there would have been no deficit but one of them was closed down.  Liam said that alternatively the school could have grown and this could have been another way to manage the deficit and there had been delays in completing the organisation of the campus which had been picked up by the school as well.  Liam stated that the local authority had provided everything it could financially so there was no question about that but feel that there had been a historical injustice and the deficit needs to be resolved.

 

Liam explained that the if the deficit cannot be resolved the next step could be to approach the Secretary of State for either the money to be given to clear the deficit or approval given for it to be paid afterwards under a managed plan.  Liam stated that the Trust and school asked for him as the representative for LSH to raise with Schools Forum.  Liam and Jenny had spoken and went through the history of the case and there are other things that the school could have done historically as well to address this but the deficit goes with the school and there was no other money in the local authority to support with the deficit and was asked to raise this which he had.

 

As Chair of this meeting, Karen Allen said that Schools Forum do not have role in this decision and the local authority’s policy had been clear for some time that any deficits are only taken on by the local authority when the school is sponsored and not in any other situations.  Karen added that Schools Forum do not have a role for looking at solutions to a deficit and there was not a fund, to consider this would be inequitable to other schools in this situation who have had to carry deficits with them on conversion previously and the comment that the MAT needs to protect itself would open the door to putting the local authority into a very difficult position because they too do not have funds to resolve and if they did this for one school they would have do the same for other schools that were in that position in the future.

 

Karen thanked Liam for bringing it to Schools Forum but reiterated there was no role for the Schools Forum in this discussion and hopefully services the purpose of what Liam had been asked to do and noted that a discussion had taken place.

 

Jane Lennie commented that in 2016 this was presented to the Secretary of State, but the Government changed and had not been referred to again.