Minutes:
The Commission considered a report and a supplementary
report of the Director of Corporate Resources the purpose of which was to set out
the provisional revenue and capital outturn for 2024/25 and to seek members
views which would be presented to the Cabinet at its meeting on 17 June. A copy of the report and supplementary marked
‘Agenda Item 10’ is filed with these minutes.
Arising from the discussion the following points were made:
(i)
Members raised concerns regarding the current
forecasted gap of £90m in the Council’s Medium Term Financial Strategy (MTFS)
by 2028/29 and questioned how this would be addressed. It was noted a number of
savings initiates were already being developed but these were not yet
sufficiently detailed to be factored into the MTFS. Work to identify further efficiencies and
income sources was also taking place across all departments. Once fully
developed these would then need to be considered by the Cabinet for inclusion
in the next iteration of the MTFS.
(ii)
The Council’s budget for 2025/26 had been
approved and balanced with the use of some reserves (£4.7m). Immediate action was, however, necessary to
identify savings that would ensure delivery of a balanced budget for
2026/27.
(iii)
The Director reported that there was no single
solution to address the financial gap, the magnitude of which was not
dissimilar to that faced by other councils.
The Council’s funding position was difficult and complex given the
number of statutory services it had to deliver.
A varied approach had always been adopted to both reduce demand, lobby
government to increase grant funding, as well as locally seeking to increase
income including increases in council tax.
(iv)
A Member emphasised that the Council’s budget
was dictated by demand and growth in demand was caused by factors outside its
control. As it had a statutory
responsibility to deliver certain services its financial position would not
improve significantly without more funding from Government.
(v)
A member commented that recent publications
regarding Reform UK’s proposed Doge-style scheme had questioned the efficiency
of procurement in local government and suggested that improvements in this area
could yield further savings. The Director explained that around 75% of Council
spend was through contracts with third parties and this would therefore always
form part of the Council’s future savings plans. However, this would not just
be targeted toward procurement efficiencies but also challenging how and why
the Council procured those services in the first place.
(vi)
At the request of the Chairman, the Leader
commented that he did not think the County Council would receive a visit from
Reform UK’s Doge-style scheme. He confirmed that careful planning was needed
and therefore consideration would be given to involving a professional,
external body to assist the Council in identifying future savings
opportunities. It was acknowledged that this would come at a cost to the
Authority. The Leader provided assurance that he and his Cabinet were working
at pace to consider this but said he could not give a specific timeframe for
when external consultants would be instructed. However, he undertook to keep
members informed.
(vii)
The Government’s spending review was expected to
provide some insight into the Government’s funding priorities. Additional grant funding for local government
was, however, looking unlikely. A member
raised concern that the Government’s focus on deprivation as part of future
funding reform proposals would likely further disadvantage Leicestershire.
(viii)
A member questioned the impact local government
reorganisation (LGR) and potentially transferring land to the City might have
on the County Council’s MTFS, suggesting this would be detrimental, reducing
the County’s council tax base and therefore its financial stability. The
Director acknowledged the concern raised and agreed this would be something the
Council would need to be mindful of.
However, it was noted that despite this challenge, reorganisation would
still have the potential to generate significant savings, particularly the
option for a single county unitary.
(ix)
The Leader emphasised that the implications of
LGR were significant and he would therefore be meeting with the City Council
Mayor to discuss this. It would be important for them to look at all options on
the way forward and to consider what would be realistic and acceptable to the
people of Leicester and Leicestershire. He would also enter into discussions
with district councils as appropriate. However, he highlighted that the
situation was complex, involving 9 local authorities. In response to further questions raised, the
Leader said he would not confirm his preferred view on the best approach for
LGR at this time, clarifying that it would not be appropriate until discussions
with partners had been held.
(x)
Concerns were raised about how debts and the
financial responsibilities of existing authorities would be managed as part of
LGR. The Director advised that so far, the Government had confirmed it would
not absorb councils existing debts. This would therefore need to be managed
locally as part of the reorganisation proposals put forward. It was recognised
that the more complicated arrangements became the more costly this would likely
be.
(xi)
Members identified the worsening position
regarding the High Needs Block (HNB) deficit, and the impact this was having on
the Council’s overall budget, as an area of serious concern. It was noted that the HNB deficit was in
addition to the £90m MTFS funding gap identified. Whilst the Council had been
part of a government program aimed at delivering better value in this area the
situation continued to deteriorate. It was further highlighted that the Council
had itself employed external consultants at cost to identify new ways to bring
the deficit down and although considerable savings were being achieved though
this, the deficit was still growing due to increased demand.
(xii)
The Director emphasised that this continued to
be an area of focus for the Children and Family Services Department through
delivery of its Transforming SEND in Leicestershire programme (TSIL) and
assured members that savings were being delivered as a result of the work being
undertaken. However, this was not sufficient to close the gap due to continued
rising demand. Members noted that the
position was unlikely to change without national reform which was a matter for
the Government. It was suggested that the
Commission be provided more information on the complexities surrounding the HNB
deficit and the delivery of savings through the TSIL programme which was being
monitored by the Children and Family Services Overview and Scrutiny Committee.
(xiii)
Confirmation that the HNB statutory override
would continue was awaited but it was hoped that this would be addressed as
part of the Government’s spending review. A member commented that the Council’s
deficit was not unique and that some authorities were in a significantly worse
position having been put into the Government’s Safety Valve Programme. The
Director advised that this programme had now been terminated as it had not
delivered the savings expected, further emphasising the need for change at a national
level.
(xiv)
The underspend in Adult Social Care Services was
welcomed. However, this was a demand led
service affected by increases in inflation and pay. This was difficult to
predict for future years and so would be monitored closely.
(xv)
Diversification in the Council’s investments was
supported and considered to be a prudent approach. However, a member questioned
if the bank risk sharing investment proposal was high risk, noting that the
targeted 13% rate of return was high compared to UK and European small business
lending rates. The Director advised that the investment was not a lending
product but a type of insurance and whilst the risk of loans to small
businesses do carry a risk, this was more predictable and so could be costed in
advance. Such investments were also not affected by fluctuations in the
national and international economic position. The Director confirmed that the
leverage was also small for this type of investment and undertook to provide
further details after the meeting.
(xvi)
It was noted that the Council had made its
initial investment in bank risk sharing some years ago following a detailed
presentation to this Committee at that time. The investment formed part of the
Council’s Investing in Leicestershire Programme (IILP) which were overseen by
the IILP Board which consisted of five Cabinet Lead Members. The board considered all such investments
before these were approved by the Cabinet and their performance was monitored
annually by the Commission. The Director undertook to provide more detailed
information regarding these types of investments within the portfolio as part
of its next performance update to be presented in September.
(xvii)
A Member asked if, as an alternative,
consideration had been given to investing in shares as bank risk sharing
appeared to be bespoke and niche type of investment. The Director advised that
the Council had always taken a prudent approach when making investments and
whilst investments in shares could generate a higher return, they could also be
more volatile.
(xviii)
A member questioned whether the Council’s
deficit could be eliminated without raising council tax, and queried if council
tax was not increased, what affect this would have. It was noted that the Council’s MTFS was prepared
on the assumption there would be an increase in council tax. The current MTFS
presumed a 2.99% increase each year which equated to approximately £12m
additional income per annum. If removed, this would generate an additional £40m
funding gap approx. over the life of the MTFS.
(xix)
It was noted that the Council had repaid some
debt during the year which meant this was below what had been previously
forecast. In response to questions
raised the Director undertook to provide clarification regarding the split
between the level of internal and external debt after the meeting.
RESOLVED:
(a) That
the comments now made by the Scrutiny Commission be presented to the Cabinet
for consideration at its meeting on 17th June 2025;
(b) That
the Director be requested to:
(i)
provide more information on the complexities
surrounding the HNB deficit and the delivery of savings through the TSIL
programme;
(ii)
confirm the leverage for the proposed bank risk
sharing investment;
(iii)
provide more detailed information regarding IILP
non-direct property investments as part of its next performance update to be
presented in September;
(iv)
provide clarification regarding the split
between the level of internal and external debt held by the Council.
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